drethelin comments on Solved Problems Repository - Less Wrong

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Comment author: drethelin 02 April 2013 06:15:29PM 1 point [-]

Considering the social import of being attractive and getting around to see people and the correlation between active social life and longevity I think it's more than you might think, but I agree with you. On the other hand, the trade off is a lot more reasonable if you can be relatively healthy and happy while fat AND it's particularly hard for you to lose weight.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 April 2013 11:52:23AM *  0 points [-]

Considering the social import of being attractive and getting around to see people and the correlation between active social life and longevity I think it's more than you might think, but I agree with you.

Well, they did control for, among other things, marital status. (Also, I'd guess that the BMI that maximizes conventional attractiveness would be higher for men than for women, and wouldn't depend much on smoking.)

On the other hand, the trade off is a lot more reasonable if you can be relatively healthy and happy while fat AND it's particularly hard for you to lose weight.

Yes. ISTM that for certain people losing weight has become a lost purpose.

Comment author: ESRogs 04 April 2013 12:23:15AM 0 points [-]

I'd guess that the BMI that maximizes conventional attractiveness would be higher for men than for women

Higher for men? Despite the fact that women have higher BMI on average and that curvy figures are considered (by many) to be attractive?

Comment author: [deleted] 04 April 2013 12:21:49PM *  1 point [-]

Higher for men?

Remember that BMI is based on the total body mass, and that muscle is denser than fat. (OTOH, that study corrected for level of exercise, and it's quite possible that the BMI that would maximize an average white American man's attractiveness if he's not allowed to vary his level of exercise would indeed be around 20.)

that curvy figures are considered (by many) to be attractive?

I am one of those “many”, too, but ISTM that in present-day Western cultures we're a minority; "thin" seems to have become a compliment. (Last year, someone offered to set me up with her roommate who probably had BMI around 18, and when I told her that I didn't fancy her, she retorted “but she's so skinny!” as though it was a positive.)

Comment author: ESRogs 04 April 2013 03:50:47PM 0 points [-]

Ah, good points.