jsteinhardt comments on Robin Hanson's Cryonics Hour - Less Wrong

26 Post author: orthonormal 29 March 2013 05:20PM

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Comment author: orthonormal 29 March 2013 05:25:12PM 14 points [-]

I don't think the following belonged in the OP, but it's worth saying:

Why was there such a difference for me between a conversation with RH and his more public outputs? My opinion is that he's very good at pointing out specific gaps in reasoning, which is extremely productive when it's your own reasoning. But when you're reading or watching Robin's exchange with someone else, it's all too tempting to think that he's picking nits and that the other person is just failing to respond in the correct way (i.e. the exact way that you'd respond, to which you don't see a counterargument from RH).

There are argumentative devices to circumvent this problem and make oneself more persuasive to an audience, but Robin doesn't seem to employ those as much as the norm.

Comment author: jsteinhardt 31 March 2013 07:50:19AM 2 points [-]

FWIW, while I've never talked to Robin in person, my experience with talking to Eliezer was pretty similar.

Comment author: mwengler 31 March 2013 12:03:21PM 2 points [-]

The very firs lesswrong meetup I ever went to (in Orange County) was attended by Yvain, Anna Salamon, and Luke (before he worked for whatever the institute is called these days). It was significantly more awesome than reading them in the blogs.

Comment author: gwern 17 November 2013 03:34:33AM 2 points [-]

Well, while we're trading personal evaluations... when I met Yvain in person, I found him to be not quite as awesome as his writings. I suspect I come off the same way (although I have a good excuse).

Comment author: mwengler 18 November 2013 07:01:34PM 1 point [-]

I'd still really look forward to spending some time with you in a small group or alone. Maybe it is a kind-of-person thing but I have NEVER been disappointed meeting someone in person that I admire from printed word. At some level, I think I am at least as fascinated trying to understand what kind of person produces ideas like that, and the in person meetings are just chock full of information that I will never get no matter how much I read.