PhilGoetz comments on The Universal Medical Journal Article Error - Less Wrong

6 Post author: PhilGoetz 29 April 2014 05:57PM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 11 April 2013 02:33:21AM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by your second sentence?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 11 April 2013 04:44:35AM *  3 points [-]

For example, in messy topics like biology, most instances of "all" should be replaced with "most". In other words, people were translating the universal statements into probabilistic statements. They were subsequently confused when you insisted on treating the problem as logical rather than statistical.

Comment author: drethelin 13 April 2013 07:14:10AM 3 points [-]

This seems to be a very common nerd argument failure mode.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 13 April 2013 08:56:24AM 3 points [-]

This seems to be a very common nerd argument failure mode.

What is the antecedent of "this"? This isn't a rhetorical question, I honestly can't figure out which of several possibilities you're referring to.

Comment author: drethelin 14 April 2013 01:54:51AM 3 points [-]

responding to claims as if they are meant literally or arguments as if they're deductive logical arguments.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 08 July 2014 04:58:41PM *  -1 points [-]

It is because it is a statistical problem that you can't replace "all" with "most". The F-value threshold was calculated assuming "all", not "most". You'd need a different threshold if you don't mean "all".

Also, the people I am complaining about explicitly use "all" when they interpret medical journal articles in which a test for an effect was failed as having proven that the effect does not exist for any patients.