gwern comments on Optimal rudeness - Less Wrong

-7 Post author: PhilGoetz 13 April 2013 03:48AM

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Comment author: gwern 13 April 2013 05:02:49PM *  6 points [-]

Before today I had no strong opinion about you, as a person. Yet you appear determined to make me hate you, going out of your way to hurt me and to create a new personal enemy for yourself, for... what?

Why did my comment provoke any meaningful reaction from you other than a laugh? For example, "that gwern, thinking he can psychoanalyze me across the Internet! No, my friend, I have problems of course - don't we all? - but I'm afraid you're waaaay off-base there! Jolly good try, though."

("Somebody remarked: 'I can tell by my own reaction to it that this book is harmful.' But let him only wait and perhaps one day he will admit to himself that this same book has done him a great service by bringing out the hidden sickness of his heart and making it visible.")

Disgust, pity, irritation... none of these are reasons.

Perhaps not for you, although I rather doubt it. Personally, I do many things out of irritation.

You put a lot of effort into LessWrong, into experimentation, reading, posting, all to try to tweak your ability to act rationally just a little better, to become just a little more optimal. But what's the point of working so hard to be just a little more rational, when you indulge in such destructive behavior on a whim, or out of cruelty?

What is the point of earning any credibility and rationality if one never says or believes anything that would be accepted and believed without the need of any credibility or rationality?

Can we not do this?

Sure. I'll stop saying mean and apparently too incisive things if you'll stop cluttering LW with your passive-aggressive BS and re-fighting your past battles and trying to retroactively justify posts that were not received as you wanted.

Comment author: duckduckMOO 18 April 2013 09:00:17AM -1 points [-]

"What is the point of earning any credibility and rationality if one never says or believes anything that would be accepted and believed without the need of any credibility or rationality?"

So what you're saying is I shouldn't trust anything you say?

Comment author: gwern 18 April 2013 04:23:33PM 2 points [-]

I think what I was saying was pretty much the exact opposite.