Tenoke comments on Help us name the Sequences ebook - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Tenoke 15 April 2013 09:42:30PM 10 points [-]

I like the sound of it more if it doesnt include 'sequences' or anything like that at all. For example instead of:

Becoming Less Wrong: The Sequences, 2006–2009

Just have it as Becoming Less Wrong or Becoming Less Wrong: Something Catchier.

Comment author: Stabilizer 17 April 2013 01:30:11AM 7 points [-]

Becoming Less Wrong: The Art of Debugging Yourself

Comment author: somervta 16 April 2013 12:31:38AM 4 points [-]

Becoming Less Wrong seems to be the best option so far.

Comment author: Benito 17 April 2013 12:27:15AM 3 points [-]

Just so it's near the top:

'The Methods of Rationality' ties in with HPMoR, and sounds amazing. To me.

Comment author: somervta 17 April 2013 01:40:15AM *  4 points [-]

'Methods of Rationality' hadn't been proposed at the time. I agree, it's pretty good. Perhaps:

Title: The Methods of Rationality

Subtitle: How to Become Less Wrong/Becoming Less Wrong

The Title:Subtitle format seems to be popular.

Comment author: somervta 17 April 2013 02:27:39AM 2 points [-]

(However, as noted elsewhere, confusion with HPMOR may be a a bug rather than a feature )

Comment author: Benito 17 April 2013 03:02:10PM 2 points [-]

I think the increased publicity of both would outweigh any bugs. Showing all HPMoR readers a book on how to be Harry? Showing all MoR:BLW readers a fiction about magic, using everything they've now learned!

Comment author: Rukifellth 20 April 2013 08:47:54PM *  1 point [-]

Becoming Less Wrong seems to be the best option so far.

Becoming Less Wrong: The Art of Debugging Yourself

Just have it as Becoming Less Wrong or Becoming Less Wrong: Something Catchier.

These won't work for the same reason "Winning" wouldn't be used.

They rely on the idea that people are actively hunting for ways to be more rational, but this just isn't true, which means that the "Wrong" isn't going to mean what you're hoping it'll mean. Odds are the people who pick this book up are in middle of a relationship, or something interesting happened at work, or they're thinking about how to do a school assignment. In other words, everything they know about life is telling them that they're doing alright, or rather, that they personally aren't doing wrongly. They'll decide "This book must be for somebody else, I've got all my things together", or possibly "Things are going bad right now, but I'm working to fix it, so I don't need a book telling me to change my attitude" and set it down. The point of the book was improve their decision making thinking, not fix their attitude, but the title didn't convey that properly, so misunderstandings were had.

"Wrong", like "Winning", has a completely different context outside the Less Wrong community. It's more closely associated with vitriol, bad guys and good guys, guilt, righteous resentment, arguments. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those feelings are the real concept of "Wrongness", and it's only in this community that an exotic sort of quale became substituted.

Comment author: somervta 21 April 2013 08:18:30PM 1 point [-]

And this is why market research on non-LWers is important. I don't think that popular usage of 'wrong' is so totally divorced from the usage here, although it may not be the only usage of the word. Ultimately, however, the best way to determine that is to ask some people.