RomeoStevens comments on Bitcoins are not digital greenbacks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RomeoStevens 22 April 2013 06:49:46PM *  6 points [-]

From an incentive perspective, all you get is saving a bit of money on credit card fees.

You vastly underestimate the importance of this. When you run a business with margins of 6%, 3% fees are cutting your profits in half.

Keep in mind that bitcoins have already been around for years and haven't seen really widespread adoption outside of niche stuff like Silk Road.

growth has been ridiculously rapid. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 April 2013 01:40:46PM *  0 points [-]

Bitpay has 0.99% fees. Exchanging bitcoin at mtgox costs you 0.60% fees.

In total bitcoin doesn't allow free transfers.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 28 April 2013 07:17:15PM 0 points [-]

"Saving money on fees" =/= "No fees"

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 22 April 2013 11:31:54PM *  -1 points [-]

You vastly underestimate the importance of this. When you run a business with margins of 6%, 3% fees are cutting your profits in half.

That's a good point from a company's perspective. (Note, though, that if bitcoins ever became a serious threat, credit card companies could probably respond by lowering their fees.) From an individual's perspective, it's not very meaningful. And getting individuals to adopt bitcoin is going to be a bigger barrier, because there are more individuals than companies. Getting individuals to pay with bitcoin is even harder 'cause of deflation issues.

growth has been ridiculously rapid. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

Given that bitcoin was introduced over four years ago, I think "ridiculously rapid" is an exaggeration.

Do you know of data on actual transactions completed with bitcoin, as opposed to merchant adoption or speculation?

Comment author: Decius 23 April 2013 07:13:16AM 1 point [-]

Given that credit card companies are already cutting their effective margins (by offering a percentage of purchases as cash back to their customers, for the most direct example) to be competitive with each other, how much do you think they could afford to cut for a system that doesn't have centralized costs to subsidize?