Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Post ridiculous munchkin ideas! - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 May 2013 09:32:41PM 0 points [-]

I suggest a move to Main.

Comment author: Baughn 10 May 2013 10:04:37PM 4 points [-]

Hang on, this is the discussion section. The entire post is an invitation to discussion - that is not just its primary, but practically its sole purpose.

Do you suggest a move to Main because more people read Main? That may be true, but anecdotally at least one person reads everything on the site. Furthermore, it seems like abusing the category.

Is it because Main posts have higher status? That's.. probably true, but again seems like conflating category and status.

The solution is probably a code tweak, so although I'm not trying to oppose the move - you're probably right - getting to the bottom of why it's a good idea might let us avoid this situation in the future.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 May 2013 11:16:42PM 2 points [-]

Because Main is for higher-quality posts that people who don't read Discussion read, and then Promoted is for even higher-quality posts for people subscribed to the Promoted RSS feed?

Comment author: Baughn 10 May 2013 11:47:30PM 2 points [-]

All right, then how about we have a "promotion" axis separate from the "category" axis? Is there enough volume on the site for that, already?

Comment author: DanArmak 11 May 2013 08:59:15PM *  3 points [-]

You could just use the number of upvotes on an article. It would still require a code change, but I don't think we need a new source of data separate from upvotes, categories, and the existing promotion.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 11 May 2013 12:21:27AM 1 point [-]

That would require a code change.

Comment author: RobbBB 13 May 2013 02:06:16AM *  0 points [-]

What role do you have in mind for Discussion posts that you don't think should also hold for Main posts? (On your original conception of 'Discussion' and 'Main'.) Main-level posts like the Sequences also generally turn into active discussions, so I'm not clear on what is supposed to set Discussion apart.

Comment author: Baughn 13 May 2013 01:56:18PM 0 points [-]

The difference would be that it's only discussion, so you know what to expect.

Actually, a single Promotion axis plus tags would probably work better.

Comment author: RobbBB 13 May 2013 02:47:46PM *  0 points [-]

I agree that tags probably make more sense. I'm still not clear on what it means for a post or its comments to be 'only discussion'. Is the idea that the OP in a Discussion post is supposed to be as contentless as possible? Or is there something special about some comments that makes them Discussion comments, and others not?

Comment author: Baughn 13 May 2013 04:33:52PM 0 points [-]

Not much, no. What originally set me off was the type error of 'promoted - main - discussion', which seems like an axis that's taking two right angles.

Having three stages of promotion, plus tags, should be sufficient. At that, articles already have tags; we just need to use them a little better.

Comment author: Decius 11 May 2013 02:18:03AM 0 points [-]

Is main also for posts that garner high-quality discussion?

Comment author: elharo 11 May 2013 01:20:55PM 1 point [-]

Who can move a post to main? the author? the moderators? both? anyone else?