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Comment author: D_Malik 11 May 2013 11:42:14AM 7 points [-]

A well-known trick for memorizing things verbatim is to make them rhyme and put them in a song. Most people reading this know the alphabet song, for instance, and you can use this to learn US states and capitals or chemical elements.

Maybe it would be possible to do this without the rhyming, by using text-to-speech software to convert the information into audio and then playing that over vocals-free music. Instead of text-to-speech software, you could buy/get an audiobook with the information, if one exists. It might be possible to use this, for instance, to memorize multiplication tables up to 100 easily. I haven't yet tried any of this.

I also intend to research whether hearing something repetitively while sleeping helps you to memorize it verbatim, and whether that would harm sleep.

Relatedly, I noticed recently that I knew the words in a 14-minute ASMR video almost verbatim because I had listened to it so often. So one idea is to pay someone skilled at producing ASMR to read you things you want to memorize.

Comment author: bramflakes 11 May 2013 04:38:14PM 4 points [-]

Spaced-repetition software is much more convenient and scalable than coming up with rhymes all the time.

Comment author: Kawoomba 11 May 2013 04:51:32PM 7 points [-]

For all the advice at the OP's behest,

"ridiculous" was his request.

Comment author: D_Malik 12 May 2013 08:59:34AM 0 points [-]

Sure. What I meant was that maybe you could do away with the rhymes, instead just listening to the information over and over, possibly overlayed with music or made to be ASMR-inducing. Spaced repetition is awesome, but I don't think it would be good for training e.g. the ability to instantly solve multiplication problems. Plus SRS requires active engagement, whereas playing sound in the background doesn't.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 11 May 2013 07:06:07PM 3 points [-]

You can spend a weekend coming up with peg words for numbers from 0 to 99 in the mnemonic major system and memorizing them. Then you'll have a system for easily memorizing any sequence of up to a 100 arbitrary items by associating the pegs to them, without needing to figure out how to tie the items into each other with rhyming.

Doesn't work in the long term since the associations will fade and you'll re-use the pegs, but long-term stuff can go into a spaced repetition system.

Comment author: malcolmocean 14 May 2013 04:51:58AM 0 points [-]

I think memory palaces work reasonably well long-term.

Comment author: Houshalter 12 May 2013 05:18:30PM 2 points [-]

I have had trouble with the alphabet. Because I only ever memorized the song, and not the numbering or ordering of the letters, whenever I have to put something in alphabetical order, I have to think a little bit and play the song in my head. I memorized the sound "elemenopee" not the sequence "L, M, N, O, P".

Comment author: dreeves 20 May 2013 06:21:40PM 0 points [-]

See also the digit-sound method: http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/2012/01/06/how-to-remember-numbers/

(I have the vague intention to create a handy tool based on that, which I'd call digimaphone: http://digimaphone.com )