Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Post ridiculous munchkin ideas! - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 13 May 2013 08:39:59AM 22 points [-]

This is for people interested in optimizing for academic fame (for a given level of talent and effort and other costs). Instead of trying to get a PhD and a job in academia (which is very costly and due to "publish or perish" forces you to work on topics that are currently popular in academia), get a job that leaves you with a lot of free time, or find a way to retire early. Use your free time to search for important problems that are being neglected by academia. When you find one, pick off some of the low-hanging fruit in that area and publish your results somewhere. Then, (A) if you're impatient for recognition, use your results to make an undeniable impact on the world (see Bitcoin for example), or (B) if you're patient, move on to another neglected topic and repeat, knowing that in a few years or decades, the neglected topic you found will likely become a hot topic and you'll be credited for being the first to investigate it.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 May 2013 10:51:10PM 5 points [-]

Hanson has a post somewhere about how the first-movers often don't get credited, just the prestigious second-movers.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 15 May 2013 12:24:31PM 6 points [-]

It could be that prestigious second-movers deserve the credit if they are responsible for getting people to pay attention to the previously neglected topics, and possibly we already credit first-movers more than we should (which is why I said "optimize for academic fame" instead of "positive social impact"). Which brings up a question: what determines the topics that academia pays attention to? If we had a good model for that, maybe we could use it to generate some munchkin ideas for making it pay attention to important but neglected ideas?

Comment author: Vaniver 13 May 2013 11:39:39PM 2 points [-]

I hope the irony was intentional. (Here's the post, btw.)

Comment author: ciphergoth 14 May 2013 05:27:42AM 11 points [-]

He has another post about how if you say something outrageous that later becomes common wisdom, you won't be widely admired for having said it first; you will still be thought of as a crank.

Cognitive bias is now much more popular and fashionable than it was when I first started talking to my friends about it after reading Eliezer's posts. I predict that zero people will say "so it looks like this Eliezer guy you keep talking about was ahead of the curve on cognitive bias, maybe it's worth hearing some of his other ideas?"

Comment author: ialdabaoth 13 May 2013 11:09:06PM *  5 points [-]

Sociology of science calls this the Matthew Effect

Comment author: wedrifid 15 May 2013 12:32:25PM 2 points [-]

Sociology of science calls this the Matthew Effect

Ohh. "Kolmogorov Complexity" was actually invented by Solomonoff. Interesting.