MichaelVassar comments on Post ridiculous munchkin ideas! - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MichaelVassar 18 May 2013 11:54:01AM 3 points [-]

Then something is wrong with the generator that your brain uses when trying to be unconventional. Try to figure out what and how to fix it, and tell me if you figure it out, as I have no idea how to do that.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 19 May 2013 03:37:12AM 3 points [-]

Why do you say that? The low-hanging fruit of good ideas tends to get plucked, even the long shots - the primary exceptions are things that people refuse to do because they're wrong.

Comment author: MichaelVassar 24 May 2013 11:50:22AM 3 points [-]

You can assume that, but I assure you it's just not the case. We can debate the details some time in person if you'd like.

Comment author: Lumifer 16 August 2013 03:20:02PM 1 point [-]

are things that people refuse to do because they're wrong

Since "people" clearly do things like wars, torture, rape, etc. etc. I do have to wonder at what are these good ideas that are even more wrong...

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 16 August 2013 03:44:50PM 0 points [-]

How many rapes, for instance, are even an attempt to do the right thing? Not a whole lot! And if they're not trying to be good, how likely is it to come out good by accident, given what we already know about what they did? Very unlikely!

Comment author: Lumifer 16 August 2013 04:16:15PM 0 points [-]

Ah, looks like I was confused by "good" in "good ideas". I read it as "effective", good ideas are those which are instrumentally good and will allow you to get to your goal, whichever it may be, quickly and cheaply. But do you mean "good" as the opposite of wrong/evil?

Munchkin ideas are not about attempting to do the right thing. Munchkin ideas are about hacking the rules to gain an advantage, basically.