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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 18 May 2013 07:49:55PM *  7 points [-]

How do you guys feel about sharing hacks to increase your status, given that status can be a bit of a zero-sum game? I think I may have identified a nootropic that has the effect of making one feel and act higher status, but I'm not sure I want to just tell the entire world about it, given the positional nature of status.

Edit: see here for more.

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 May 2013 10:42:22PM 9 points [-]

There no reason why we should give more status to tall people or who are otherwise physically strong. It's much better to give status to those people who are smart enough to apply hacks.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 20 May 2013 10:55:30PM 2 points [-]

There no reason why we should give more status to tall people

Actually, like skin color and facial structure, height is a pretty good indicator of intelligence. (This isn't genetic or even A->B causative; it's simply a fact that height and IQ are both highly dependent on childhood nutrition).

I don't say this to advocate heightism any more than I would advocate racism; I'm merely pointing out that in our current environment, they happen to correlate pretty well, and anyone under 6'2" should pause and contemplate the implications of that.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 21 May 2013 06:15:02AM 9 points [-]

I had the impression that the height/intelligence correlation was actually quite weak:

the correlation between height and intelligence is not that high. This association is probably not going to be intuitively visible to anyone, but rather only shows up in large data sets.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/04/why-are-taller-people-more-intelligent/#.UZsQvIpDsqg

Comment author: Vaniver 21 May 2013 03:20:06AM 5 points [-]

anyone under 6'2" should pause and contemplate the implications of that.

Um, I don't think you're using this correlation correctly. Because we have a model where nutritional deficiencies lead to both short height and low IQ, the amount of information we get is dependent on where we are in the height and IQ spectrum. Basically, if you're uncharacteristically short, say -2 sigma or lower, then you should be worried; if -1 sigma or lower, a slight suspicion; 0 or higher, little information, rather than the "if you aren't more than +1.3 sigma, contemplate."

Except that this correlation is much less informative than, say, IQ tests.

Comment author: Prismattic 21 May 2013 01:25:07AM *  1 point [-]

Tesla was just under 6'2", I'll spot you him.

Einstein was 5'9". Christopher Langan is 5'11".

Wolfram Alpha couldn't give me a height for Feynman, Hofstadter, or Darwin.

Nutrition is not the only derterminant of height.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 21 May 2013 01:39:10AM *  3 points [-]

Nutrition is not the only derterminant of height.

Certainly; nor is it the only determinant of intelligence. "Highly dependent" != "solely dependent". But someone who wanted to maximize the chance of interacting intelligent and successful people would do well to pay attention to height, for multiple reasons - not the least of which is that everyone ELSE who wants to maximize the chance of interacting with intelligent and successful people tends to pay attention to height (even if they themselves are not tall).

Also, note that your "name X highly intelligent people who were not at optimal height" strategy is primarily anecdotal, and also that 6'2" to 6'4" is the optimal height for maximizing your height-based status gain, not the baseline height.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 May 2013 12:32:51PM *  1 point [-]

But someone who wanted to maximize the chance of interacting intelligent and successful people would do well to pay attention to height, for multiple reasons

There probably are lots of things you could pay attention to instead that would give you more information.

(I'm 6'2", just in case anyone suspects this is sour grapes.)

Comment author: ialdabaoth 21 May 2013 12:58:46AM *  0 points [-]

There no reason why we should give more status to tall people or who are otherwise physically strong.

I'm very curious why someone would vote this down.