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Comment author: DaFranker 24 April 2013 08:54:52PM *  1 point [-]

Japan has a population of 130 million. It is the largest (by population) non-western developed nation. Edit: It is also the second-largest developed nation in the world.

China is not considered a developed nation? Dang. The things you learn.

(sure, if you look at average well-being including all the people not living in urban areas and average per-capita economic statistics and other similar things, it doesn't look like a major developed power at all... but China has launched manned space missions, has massive high-tech cities, has some pretty darn good scientific projects, and the parts that aren't backwater farms look pretty damn first-world apart from all that oppression-from-the-state business)

At any rate, going by all that's happening over there and all they're doing, I would've expected them to be one by now.

Comment author: shminux 24 April 2013 09:43:12PM 0 points [-]

China is not considered a developed nation? Dang. The things you learn.

Must be the archaic designation of it as a "second world" country, whereas the developed and developing countries roughly match "first world" and "third world".

Comment author: DaFranker 25 April 2013 01:42:08PM 0 points [-]

Well, the wikipedia articles on human development and developed nations seem to indicate that to be considered a "developed nation" you have to have good per-capita rates, widespread infrastructure (admittedly, while China has first-rate infrastructure, it is only present in urban centers, to hell with rural areas!), and probably the most critical point re China is that you are into a Post-Industrial economy, with a larger service sector than industrial sector.

As far as my readings and knowledge can tell, the above are indeed points where China fails.