orthonormal comments on Compromise: Send Meta Discussions to the Unofficial LessWrong Subreddit - Less Wrong

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Comment author: orthonormal 23 April 2013 03:26:28AM 0 points [-]

OK. I agree this is a legitimate issue with the proposal, but it's the best idea I know of that can be implemented without site changes (and we all know how easily site changes happen).

Do you agree, though, that the sporadic meta flame wars are a problem? (If not, it's worth noting that other people do find it a significant ugh field- beware trivial inconveniences to their use of the site too.)

Comment author: Vaniver 23 April 2013 03:53:15AM *  3 points [-]

I apologize, there was a html error in my comment and so most of it was accidentally eaten; I recommend rereading it. In particular, I'm curious if you think the Recent Unpleasantness with V_V was a flamewar or not.

Do you agree, though, that the sporadic meta flame wars are a problem?

I disagree with the words "flame" and "a": I think that the meta discussions that generate the most heat are discussions about the use of moderator power, and I think those discussions are often gone about in a suboptimal manner. I think that there are significant cheap improvements to the way those discussions occur, and significant cheap improvements that make those discussions less frequent.

I don't think that meta discussions as a whole should be avoided, because there are many meta topics that are useful. If people get the sense that there is too much meta discussion going on, I suspect that's generally a disguised complaint that there's not enough object discussion going on, and it is better cured by subsidizing / generating object discussion than penalizing meta discussion.

Edited to add: I didn't elaborate on my disagreement with "a" enough. I think there are several related problems that meta discussions bring up, and I think that targeting those problems individually is superior to a blanket ban / penalization.

Comment author: orthonormal 23 April 2013 04:07:42AM 1 point [-]

Yes, the recent unpleasantness was the reason I made this post. And I don't think there's much evidence to the effect that meta arguments happen more when there's less other content on the site; I think it flares up at pretty random intervals.