Eugine_Nier comments on Privileging the Question - Less Wrong

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Comment author: someonewrongonthenet 30 April 2013 12:30:39AM *  2 points [-]

So the original question was:

How to optimize the society for more long-term utility for people of any sexual orientation?

Under classical preference utilitarianism, you try to maximize everyone's utility and conveniently ignore the problems of putting two utility functions into one equation, and the problems you mention.

Continuing to conveniently ignore that problem, I implicitly assume that we agree that the positive utility generated by removing restrictions to homosexuality outweigh the negative utility generated by violating purity boundaries, when applied over the entire population.

We still include the purity thing in the calculations of course. For example, I could in principle argue that the negative utility from allowing sex in public probably outweighs the positive utility generated from the removal of the restriction, hence our public obscenity laws.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 May 2013 03:02:53AM 3 points [-]

Continuing to conveniently ignore that problem, I implicitly assume that we agree that the positive utility generated by removing restrictions to homosexuality outweigh the negative utility generated by violating purity boundaries, when applied over the entire population.

That ignores the possibility that there is a reason those purity boundaries were there in the first place.

Comment author: someonewrongonthenet 01 May 2013 05:12:19AM *  -1 points [-]

I've seen this before, but I can't say I find it a compelling argument - if an institution was placed for good reason, then at least someone, somewhere would remember why it was placed and could give a compelling argument. If no one can do so, the risk of some, hidden drawback which the original lawmaker could have forseen seems too small to count.

I mean, this argument does apply when you are acting alone, on some question that neither you nor anyone you come into contact with knows anything about...but it doesn't apply to something like this.