katydee comments on Rationality Quotes May 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: katydee 01 May 2013 09:42:21AM 7 points [-]

I am also thankful that, once I had an appetite for philosophy, I did not fall into the hands of some so-called wise man, and that I did not waste my time publishing or attempting to solve logical puzzles, or busy myself with observing the sky.

-Marcus Aurelius

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 May 2013 04:42:45PM 3 points [-]

That's actually kind of sad. Hopefully times have changed since then.

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 01 May 2013 06:42:45PM 31 points [-]

It's my understanding that Marcus Aurelius no longer voices this opinion.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 May 2013 05:08:50PM *  6 points [-]

And the people who preserved his words to reach us were more like wise men who watched the skies and solved the puzzle of cheaply distributing text, than like emperors or philosophers.

Comment author: DanArmak 01 May 2013 01:12:14PM 2 points [-]

Observing the sky is good and productive science. Perhaps he meant that as an emperor (or responsible senator, etc) he should not have been drawn into a serious scientific or philosophical career, but for those who can afford the time and effort, it's a fine pursuit.

Comment author: katydee 01 May 2013 04:08:43PM 11 points [-]

I was told that that part was actually a reference to astrology.

Comment author: loup-vaillant 03 May 2013 11:35:59PM 0 points [-]

Gasp, I definitely didn't read that way. Observing the sky sounded like science, and the logical puzzles sounded like math. Plus, it was already useful at the time: it helped keep track of time, predict seasons…

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 May 2013 12:39:24AM 6 points [-]

There's a bit in CS Lewis about modern people thinking of astrology and alchemy as the same sort of thing, but when they were current, astrology was a way of asserting an orderly universe while alchemy was asserting human power to make things very different.

Comment author: katydee 03 May 2013 11:48:00PM 0 points [-]

Quite so-- and less obvious applications are evidenced by the example of Thales.