Pablo_Stafforini comments on Rationality Quotes May 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 03 May 2013 09:00:51PM *  11 points [-]

Can someone explain to me what is going on here? The comment is getting downvoted and Eliezer himself is telling me not to quote him (or so it appears--it's not clear whether he is being serious or not). Before deciding to post the comment, I read the instructions closely and it seemed clear that the quote--which comes from a published book, not from LW, OB, or HPMoR--didn't violate any of the rules. Maybe this is all obvious to those who post regularly on this section, but I am myself rather puzzled by the whole thing.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 May 2013 02:08:13AM *  14 points [-]

Can someone explain to me what is going on here?

You have the honour to have provoked the introduction of a new guideline (or a more explicit and precise modified version of an existing one). The norms shall henceforth be clearer to everyone. Bravo!

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 03 May 2013 09:20:26PM 11 points [-]

The spirit of the no-LW, OB, HPMoR rule is that the community shouldn't be quoting itself in quotes threads. That has a dangerous echo chamber-y feel to it.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 03 May 2013 09:25:54PM *  3 points [-]

Thanks. I didn't perceive that this was the spirit of the rule precisely because it was explicitly restricted to apply to writings from certain websites and ebooks. If the purpose is to ban quotes by (past and present) members of LessWrong, why not simply write, "No quotes by past or present members of LessWrong"?

Comment author: arundelo 03 May 2013 09:43:56PM 7 points [-]

There's a family resemblance effect going on here. Since Eliezer is the founder of the site, quoting him violates the spirit of the rule more strongly than quoting off-site writings of other Less Wrongers.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 03 May 2013 09:31:53PM 0 points [-]

Dunno. Maybe that's what it should be.

Comment author: shminux 03 May 2013 09:09:31PM *  0 points [-]

Just don't quote Eliezer and you should be safe. Better yet, don't quote any of the LW regulars, regardless of where you found the quote. If you want to share something they posted elsewhere, use the Open thread or create a Discussion post, if it's interesting enough and you have something to add to the quote.