Randy_M comments on Rationality Quotes May 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 06 May 2013 05:38:17AM 0 points [-]

Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power.

-- Eric Hoffer

Comment author: Randy_M 06 May 2013 06:54:02PM 5 points [-]

Perhaps, but absolute power tends to be the more relevant one, as it definitionally also includes the means to persue the goals derived from absolute corruption.

I wonder where one could apply "Absolute" and not come up with a scary sounding conclusion. Absolute skepticism seems it would turn one into a gibbering madman. Absolute logic--well what is a dangerous AI but absolute logic plus power?

Comment author: notriddle 14 May 2013 02:13:36AM *  0 points [-]

Absolute non-contradiction? Since anything else (that is, any contradictory statement) is absolutely horrible, if absolute non-contradiction is also horrible then nothing good exists.

edit: s/than nothing/then nothing/

Comment author: DanielLC 07 May 2013 04:36:51AM 3 points [-]

Absolute goodness?

Anything else would be problematic. Making people smile is good. Tiling the universe with microscopic smiley faces is not.

Comment author: Randy_M 07 May 2013 03:28:05PM 1 point [-]

Absolute goodness seems tautalogically good. If you pick any one good trait or action and maximize it it grows ominous again.

Comment author: DanielLC 07 May 2013 06:50:11PM 2 points [-]

Absolute goodness seems tautalogically good.

That's why I chose it.

If you pick any one good trait or action and maximize it it grows ominous again.

Like the smiling example I gave.

Comment author: Randy_M 07 May 2013 11:03:13PM 0 points [-]

Oh, actually I didn't see the connection with the smile-tile and the making people smile statements at first read. Since it isn't quite correct to say making people smile is good, but rather people smiling is typically a sign something good has happened. So a better (albeit common) example might be making people happy is good, wireheading is scary. But any connection to the top level post is growing tenuous.

Comment author: Baruta07 06 May 2013 11:44:47PM 1 point [-]

Absolute knowledge also seems like it'd leave you gibbering... Just think about it: knowledge of everything, that is to say every atom of every single object in the universe.

I can only say Ouch