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Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2013 07:16:58AM *  3 points [-]

I am just asking people to use their email client rather than their browser to write comments. And in a regular open thread they can write comments in the way they are used to when they primarily seek interaction with other readers or off topic discussion.

You underestimate how much nonrightwing people would be scared off by an actual right wing comment section. We are not therefore discussing expectations of quality or moderation here but only the trivial inconvenience of emailing them in.

I suspect your and gwerns comments are getting a lot of upvotes because of Far mode considerations and vague feelings of goodness around open discussion. Let me push that into Near mode and explain why unmoderated comments where never an option on the table. I very much expect that sooner or later we would end up at best with Unqualified Reservation's comment section or at worst with that of Alternative Right's. First I encourage the reader who is unfamiliar with them to google up both. Now tell me how many non right wing rationalists would comment there no matter how reasonable or interesting a hypotheticl article by an author?

The filter of moderation may keep interesting some comments at bay but eliminates far more of mindless politicking than pf the former. Ultimately that ratio is what I think matters.

Comment author: gwern 07 May 2013 02:24:32PM 6 points [-]

that sooner or later we would end up at best with Unqualified Reservation's comment section

Moldbug did that to himself by not bothering to moderate any comments, even to remove Chinese goldfarming and Viagra spam.

Comment author: Multiheaded 07 May 2013 04:08:32PM 10 points [-]

"Want to see amateurs in home-made crowns pretend to open kindergartens? barelyregal.com" - some commenter there.

Comment author: gwern 07 May 2013 05:16:51PM *  3 points [-]

/checks site, is disappointed does not exist

Comment author: CronoDAS 08 May 2013 09:27:11PM *  0 points [-]
Comment author: gwern 08 May 2013 09:45:18PM 2 points [-]

And of course, http://www.wetriffs.com/ (gallery ~NSFW) - but it's really stagnated these past few years. Guess it wasn't as hot as it seemed.

/is amused to note one LWer among the pics

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2013 02:29:46PM 1 point [-]

Please reread the comment you replied to.

Comment author: gwern 07 May 2013 02:57:11PM 5 points [-]

Feel free to explain. I've read Unqualified Reservations. I've read it for years. The comment section went downhill the moment Moldbug decreed he would no longer read or reply it and stopped even bothering spam filtering. All that shows is zero moderation and no karma system of any kind doesn't work - which I don't think anyone here would be terribly surprised by or was arguing for.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2013 04:17:35PM *  0 points [-]

I was making the point that no moderation us terrible. With the implicit point that there isn't much difference between moderated comments and emailed in comments. See Larry Austers blog for an example (warning I don't agree with his positions).

Comment author: gwern 07 May 2013 05:16:34PM 7 points [-]

With the implicit point that there isn't muv difference between moderated comments and emailed in comments.

Which is stupid, and I refer you to my original comment, and particularly encourage you to re-read all articles and comments mentioning 'trivial inconveniences'.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 08 May 2013 10:13:46AM 5 points [-]

With the implicit point that there isn't muv difference between moderated comments and emailed in comments.

There is, there really is. I don't mind at all posting a comment and accepting moderation, but I won't email anything to you. You can choose to be stubborn about accepting such a fact or you may not.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 May 2013 09:35:10PM *  1 point [-]

So you are saying there is a great difference? Very well I accept that tho the reason for the difference illudes me. This makes me more interested in the outcome of email only than before.