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70 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 April 2007 06:01PM

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Comment author: michael_vassar 04 April 2007 07:17:04PM 24 points [-]

Humans aren't just not perfect Bayesians. Very very few of us are even Bayesian wannabes. In essence, everyone who thinks that it is more moral/ethical to hold some proposition than to hold it's converse is taking some criterion other than appearent truth as normative with respect to the evaluation of beliefs.

Comment author: datadataeverywhere 30 September 2010 05:00:30PM -2 points [-]

This seems like a shorthand for denying the existence of morals and ethics. I don't think that's what you mean, but I've heard that exact argument used to support nihilism.

If I say "torture is unethical", I might mean "I believe that torture, for its own sake and without a greater positive offset, is unethical", which is objectively true (please, I entreat you to examine my source code). But it would be just as objectively true to say the negation if I actually believed the negation. Is it neither moral nor immoral to hold the belief that torture is a bad thing?