Lumifer comments on The mystery of pain and pleasure - Less Wrong

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Comment author: johnsonmx 02 March 2015 08:12:34AM 1 point [-]

Surely neurological processes are "arrangements of particles" too, though.

I think your question gets to the heart of the matter- is there a general principle to be found with regard to which patterns within conscious systems innately feel good, or isn't there? It would seem very surprising to me if there wasn't.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 March 2015 06:05:22PM *  3 points [-]

Surely neurological processes are "arrangements of particles" too, though.

Processes are not "arrangements", it's a dynamic vs static difference.

Comment author: johnsonmx 02 March 2015 09:01:12PM 0 points [-]

Right. It might be a little bit more correct to speak of 'temporal arrangements of arrangements of particles', for which 'processes' is a much less awkward shorthand.

But saying "pleasure is a neurological process" seems consistent with saying "it all boils down to physical stuff- e.g., particles, eventually", and doesn't seem to necessarily imply that "you can't find a 'pleasure pattern' that's fully generalized. The information is always contextual."