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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 August 2011 03:40:20PM 2 points [-]

It's hard to say especially since terrorists are a tiny proportion of engineers, and it would be good to study engineers rather than guessing about them.

Engineer-terrorists mystify me. Shouldn't engineers be the people least likely to think that you can get the reaction you want from a complex system by giving it a good hard kick?

Comment author: somejan 06 August 2011 04:56:51PM 1 point [-]

As another datapoint (though I don't have sources), I heard that among evangelical church leaders you also find a relatively higher proportion of engineers.

Comment author: lessdazed 06 August 2011 05:29:46PM *  0 points [-]

Isn't that assuming the reaction they want isn't for part of the system to break? We wouldn't have inducing armageddon as a goal, but other optimization systems don't work exactly as we do.

The reaction they want is the one their religious system directs, and the process that created those rules was different than the process that created humans, so I think you're indirectly anthropomorphising the religious system.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 August 2011 08:54:42PM 0 points [-]

Some religious people do want to set off armageddon, and some terrorists want to start ethnic/racial wars. However, my impression is that some terrorists have more specific political goals.

Comment author: christopherj 09 November 2013 03:26:52AM 1 point [-]

Shouldn't engineers be the people least likely to think that you can get the reaction you want from a complex system by giving it a good hard kick?

Anyone who's done much repair knows the value of percussive maintenance.