NancyLebovitz comments on Avoiding the emergency room - Less Wrong

7 Post author: NancyLebovitz 14 May 2013 08:23PM

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Comment author: Prismattic 15 May 2013 02:23:38AM *  3 points [-]

Materials that splinter rather than crumple would be problematic, but assuming we keep cars constructed basically as they are now, I would expect the collision between lighter cars to be better for basic F=MA reasons.

ETA: I stand corrected: See here on page 4:

The results have a clear pattern: reducing a vehicle's weight increases net risk in collisions with substantially larger and stronger entities, reduces net risk in collisions with much smaller and more vulnerable entities, and has little effect on net fatalities in collisions with vehicles of about the same size (although nonfatal injuries increase).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 May 2013 03:42:25AM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure why you think you're corrected. Your quote seems to imply that larger cars for safety is defection because they increase safety for their occupants while reducing safety for people in smaller cars.

Comment author: rocurley 15 May 2013 06:18:14AM 5 points [-]

Yes, but if I'm reading this right, the payoff matrix is different from the PD. If two large vehicles collide, it's about as bad as two small vehicles colliding. This means that if everyone drove a huge truck, safety would be improved overall (trees won't get bigger to match, and no one cares about their safety). If all you care about is safety, the optimal situation is everyone in a large vehicle.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 15 May 2013 09:11:24AM 1 point [-]

but you have to offset by QUALY's you could have bought with the extra gas money.

Comment author: Eneasz 15 May 2013 05:33:30PM -1 points [-]

And the extra money for the car (larger and heavier tend to be more expensive) and the extra destruction of the environment (when aggregated across everyone who drives)