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Thank you so very much. I wanted to do a point-by-point takedown like this... but I'm feeling a little burnt out when considering just how much similarly glib pro-authoritarian fare on LW needs this treatment.
You've said many things that I wanted to say; I'd only note that I think your rejection of authoritarianism here is lacking a meta level:
The problem is, once we concede that Reverse Authoritarianism doesn't let us do much, WHO exactly is going to figure out which authoritarian-like actions are "legitimate" and "needed"? It can't be all planned out in advance by community consensus, either.
This would be like a Leninist today defending an argument for a second Bolshevik revolution (against the obvious historical evidence) with: "Oh, but we KNOW what went wrong! We just shouldn't let more Stalinists get into the party, that's all! And this time we won't be purging any innocent people; that was so silly and counterproductive of us!"
To avoid yet more abuse of power, you can't merely tell people to make the object-level "correct" decision; you need a system that would constantly correct for self-serving rationalizations, corruption and power-blindness among the decision makers. If abuse and tyranny emerge as "spontaneous orders", then their prevention must be a perpetual and multi-faceted process, not a one-time Gordian knot to cut.
The rational response would be to acknowledge that this is a Hard Problem, and that there are not yet good answers. This is exciting, because it identifies places where significant progress can be made.