ArisKatsaris comments on The flawed Turing test: language, understanding, and partial p-zombies - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 17 May 2013 05:36:34PM 4 points [-]

The concept of the Turing test fails to impress me in both directions (I'd guess an abundance of both false positives and false negatives)

If penguins had to determine whether humans have reached penguin-level intelligence, being able to mimick a penguin's mating-call would be just the sort of test that penguins would devise. But it's not a proper test of intelligence, it's a test of penguin-mimickry by creatures so simplistic (or simplex in the terminology of Samuel R. Delany) as to think that "Intelligence" means "Acting Much Like A Penguin Would".

Comment author: Bugmaster 17 May 2013 09:01:17PM 0 points [-]

The difference here is that humans are generally intelligent, whereas penguins are not. Thus, you could imitate a penguin without possessing general intelligence, but that won't be enough to imitate a human.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 18 May 2013 02:19:52PM 0 points [-]

humans are generally intelligent

This is probably optimistic. There might be large areas of thought which are within our theoretical capacity that are still more or less blank spots for us.

We're probably still the nearest thing to generally intelligent on the planet.