MugaSofer comments on The flawed Turing test: language, understanding, and partial p-zombies - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 20 May 2013 09:25:00AM 2 points [-]

If the Turing test had been "can the computer win on Jeopardy?", then we'd agree nowadays that substituting that for "can machines think?" would have been a poor substitution.

In Turing's phrasing:

Instead of attempting such a definition [of machine thinking] I shall replace the question by another, which is closely related to it and is expressed in relatively unambiguous words.

I'm questioning whether the Turing test is closely related to machine thinking, for machines calibrated to pass the Turing test.

For machines not calibrated to the test (eg whole brain emulations), I still think the two questions are closely related. Just as SAT scores are closely related to intelligence... for people who haven't trained on SAT tests.

Comment author: MugaSofer 20 May 2013 10:11:01AM -1 points [-]

Just as SAT scores are closely related to intelligence... for people who haven't trained on SAT tests.

Of course, "intelligence" here is being measured with an IQ test, which I'm guessing also loses it's predictive power if you train at it.