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Comment author: Epsilon725 17 May 2013 04:21:38PM 9 points [-]

I am new here, and I am not sure what to do.

Comment author: Randy_M 17 May 2013 10:06:33PM 8 points [-]

Not sure what to do here, or not sure what to do more generally?

Comment author: ModusPonies 17 May 2013 05:15:37PM *  3 points [-]

Welcome! I hope you find this community as useful as I have.

—As others have suggested, reading the sequences is extremely useful and I wholeheartedly recommend it. However, it's also really long. If you want to start with something less huge, there's some good stuff here.

—Consider saying more about yourself here or in this thread.

—Where do you live? There might be an in-person meetup nearby.

Comment author: bartimaeus 17 May 2013 04:52:44PM 2 points [-]

Read the Sequences.

How did you find the site?

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 18 May 2013 07:17:36AM *  6 points [-]

I am new here, and I am not sure what to do.

I think most LWers would advise you to read the Sequences, but I reckon you could get 80% of the value from doing so by reading two of the following four books (which would be much less time consuming):

  1. Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality by Eliezer Yudkowsky

  2. Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter

  3. Good and Real: Demystifying Paradoxes from Physics to Ethics by Gary Drescher

  4. Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

Comment author: Tenoke 18 May 2013 02:36:52PM 8 points [-]

HPMOR is like the sequneces but with way less explanations and way more narrative. If you want to save time then reading HPMOR instead of the sequences is the opposite of what you should do.

The books are good but there are multiple sequences which have maybe 5% overlap tops with any of those books. Not saying that they aren't good recommendations - I am saying that your claim is invalid.

So yeah, read the sequences. If you need motivation to read the sequences read HPMOR.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 19 May 2013 01:08:06AM 2 points [-]

The books are good but there are multiple sequences which have maybe 5% overlap tops with any of those books. Not saying that they aren't good recommendations - I am saying that your claim is invalid.

I'm definitely not claiming that two of these books will cover 80% of the subject matter of the Sequences. My claim was about the value. Of course, value is subjective, so my recommendation relies on analogical reasoning (which is quite weak, even for induction), specifically that Epsilon725 is like me in relevant respects at the time I first encountered OB/LW.

Comment author: gothgirl420666 21 May 2013 02:40:56AM 6 points [-]

Disagree. I read the first two before I read the sequences and I definitely learned an immense amount from reading the sequences that I did not already know.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 21 May 2013 10:25:22PM 1 point [-]

Disagree. I read the first two before I read the sequences and I definitely learned an immense amount from reading the sequences that I did not already know.

Yes, but how valuable were those additional things you learned? What percentage would you estimate, if not 80%?

Comment author: gothgirl420666 22 May 2013 12:43:38AM 1 point [-]

Easily the most valuable thing I've read in my life, I would say. (I am also eighteen and don't read a lot.)

Comment author: shminux 17 May 2013 05:06:54PM 2 points [-]

Why are you here? Describe in the Welcome thread to get feedback.

Comment author: Manfred 17 May 2013 09:01:58PM *  4 points [-]

Note: "Why are you here, on LessWrong?" was not a rhetorical question :D

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 17 May 2013 04:52:08PM -1 points [-]

New stuff is less helpful than you'd think it is. Start with the lesswrong Sequences (just google it, too lazy to make a hyperlink).