Set Theory and Uncaused Causes
I'm relocating part of a thread that was originally on "Welcome to Less Wrong" but has wandered way off topic. It also seems that a remote ancestor comment was heavily downvoted, discouraging further contributions in the original place. So I'm moving into the Open thread.
(Huh. One of the ancestors to this comment - several levels up - has been downvoted enough to require a karma penalty. I wonder if there should be some statute of limitations on that; whether, say, ten levels of positive-karma posts can protect against a higher-level negative-karma post?)
Here are links to my latest version of the "recipe", and to CCC's response
I've had another look at the argument, and spotted a way to remove the step that relies on "if x C z and y P z then x C y", loosely "anything which causes the whole, causes the part". Since there appear to be counterexamples to that as a causal intuiton, it's a good idea to try to eliminate the step, even for a constructed relation based on C.
Here is a new version, which uses an alternative relation C'. The relation is still constructed on "entities", under the assumption it makes some sense to talk of one entity as a cause ...
If it's worth saying, but not worth its own post (even in Discussion), then it goes here.