Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on The Robots, AI, and Unemployment Anti-FAQ - Less Wrong

47 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 July 2013 06:46PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 July 2013 11:02:18PM 12 points [-]

The problem isn't just all those other taxes but phasing-out of benefits - this is what leads to the calculations and observations by which somebody making $25,000/year isn't much better off than someone getting $8,000/year.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 July 2013 06:40:04PM 24 points [-]

ADDED: Also, any paperwork can easily be an extreme barrier to that IQ 70 kid that Gwern was talking about.

Comment author: Kawoomba 25 July 2013 07:05:42PM 26 points [-]

It's an extreme barrier (in the sense of an ugh-field) even for smart would-be employers.

Comment author: Randy_M 30 July 2013 02:42:06PM 3 points [-]

I'm kind of worried that 20 people upvoted that any paperwork is an extreme barrier to smart employers--presumably people like themselves?

What kind of opportunities have you all been passing up for want of avoiding a form?

And what kind of opportunities are present to eliminate or stream-line such (ie, turbo-tax)?

Comment author: Grant 24 July 2013 11:19:10PM 0 points [-]

I'm not very well informed on this topic, but isn't something like that always going to be the case in a society with a safety net? e.g., if we make sure everyone has at least $25k to live on, anyone making $8k a year isn't going to be any worse off than someone making $25k.

Of course I'm not sure how well America's arcane maze of benefits, tax deductions and whatnot fit into this simple abstraction.

Comment author: jaibot 25 July 2013 12:18:56AM 18 points [-]

Safety net should be a slope, not a cliff. Earning your first dollar shouldn't mean you get $1 less in benefits - there's actually a good argument for subsidizing the first $X of income - which is what the EITC is. Basically negative income tax.