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Could you explain this? Also, the Platonic and Aristotelian theories are very different. For instance, Aristotle believes that forms exist only in concrete (and strictly speaking, living) things, and that there are no forms of mathematical objects.
I'm no expert on this, but I refer you to Yvain's series on The Last Superstition by Ed Feser: one, two, three, four. As Yvain quotes Feser:
I think the idea is that a homosexual human is a toothpaste-eating squirrel - the instantiation has deviated from its ideal form. And unlike squirrels, humans can reason and choose whether to act in conformity with our supposed nature.
If you assume some unsubstantiated premises, I guess this makes sense. And that's why people are talking past each other when they argue about whether homosexuality is natural. The theist claims homosexuality isn't natural, taking "natural" to mean "conforming to the ideal form". The liberal points to homosexuality in animals, taking natural to mean "appearing in nature".
(I may have horribly distorted this - I haven't read the book.)
Edit: Here's a theist talking about the book, in case you want an explanation from a believer.
I see, thanks for the links. I think it might be more accurate to refer to Feser's theory of forms, or a thomistic theory of forms in the great-grand-parent comment. These arguments aren't closely related to anything in Plato or Aristotle's actual writings. And needless to say, Aristotle and Plato were not Christians and had no particular interest in the issue of homosexuality.
Fair enough! I've edited it.