Pablo_Stafforini comments on Useful Concepts Repository - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 21 May 2014 04:30:11PM *  1 point [-]

Vipul Naik's concept of a twofer: the attempt to undermine a claim by combining two objections that would be substantiated by opposite empirical facts, and by arguing that one of the objections must hold regardless of how the facts turn out to be.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 24 May 2014 08:16:32PM 1 point [-]

That's not necessarily a fallacy. That's more of an application of the law of the excluded middle.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 25 May 2014 03:54:09PM 0 points [-]

Who said it was a fallacy? Seems like a valid argument to me.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 May 2014 06:11:34PM 1 point [-]

The article you linked to for one.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 25 May 2014 09:19:15PM *  1 point [-]

I'm not trying to be dense, but where does the article claim that "twofers" are fallacies? Can you quote the relevant passage?

EDIT: FWIW, I asked Vipul and he denies that the article makes such a claim. He also notes that the argument would be fallacious if its proponent argued that both of the empirical facts obtain (rather than arguing that one of the two must obtain).

Comment author: [deleted] 26 May 2014 05:43:01PM 1 point [-]

It doesn't say that explicitly, but he doesn't sound very convinced that the argument is valid either; but hey, word of God.

Comment author: Lumifer 21 May 2014 04:45:21PM 1 point [-]

I like the concept, I don't like the name. "Twofer" is getting two of something for the price of one and I don't think the word maps neatly to the concept.