RolfAndreassen comments on Orwell and fictional evidence for dictatorship stability - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 25 May 2013 06:12:23AM *  0 points [-]

ETA: sorry, mixed you up with other commenters. Here's what's left of my response:

The original claim was that dictatorships are less stable than monarchies. Your definition of the difference between the two might say that this is because monarchies have stable inheritance rules, while in dictatorships, which don't, a new dictator is often weak at first. This can topple or amend the dictatorship.

This claim (which you didn't make) doesn't convince me, to which I responded (after correcting my comments) in my reply here.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 26 May 2013 11:14:21AM 4 points [-]

Yes, I was only responding to the question about the difference - I wasn't making any claims about the stability. It is not really clear that monarchies last all that long; if you look at England, they tend to get a new dynasty every two hundred years, or whatever, usually after a civil war. It's not obvious that you want to consider this a continuation of the monarchy; you might just as well consider it a new one.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 27 May 2013 04:49:20PM 2 points [-]

Few dictatorships last that long.

Comment author: J_Taylor 01 June 2013 02:44:09AM 0 points [-]

Could you please name some that did?

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 12 June 2013 10:07:25PM 0 points [-]

The Roman Empire should probably be classified as a dictatorship, but it didn't have 200 years without succession violence. The "Five Good Empires" period lasted 100 years, though.

Maybe the Vatican should count as a dictatorship. It has had succession violence, but probably less often than England. But maybe it is too decentralized to count.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 June 2013 08:33:37AM 0 points [-]

Can't think of any, in fact (which is my point). However, there may be one or two that don't spring to mind.