katydee comments on The Centre for Applied Rationality: a year later from a (somewhat) outside perspective - Less Wrong

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Comment author: katydee 30 May 2013 07:44:03PM 2 points [-]

I'm rather skeptical of the "rationality dojo" concept because regular dojos are far from a reliable training method. In my experience in the martial arts, I've been taught things that are critically unsafe, things that would be illegal to use in almost any real-world setting, and things that just plain don't work. Finding good dojos is actually a fairly difficult problem.

Patterning a new training paradigm after one that fails in the majority of cases seems somewhat dubious to me. Also, the conventional dojo model is, uh, not exactly optimal for introverts.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 30 May 2013 09:56:06PM 0 points [-]

Are you comparing it to some other training paradigm that succeeds in the majority of cases?
If so, do you consider workshops to be such a paradigm, or do you have some other paradigm in mind?

Comment author: Vaniver 30 May 2013 07:55:48PM 0 points [-]

I'm rather skeptical of the "rationality dojo" concept because regular dojos are far from a reliable training method.

The parts of the dojo model that I'm thinking of importing are:

  1. Regular periodic meetings of a few hours, probably weekly or monthly.
  2. A geographically local userbase.
  3. Clear skill gradations and demarcations and test-based advancement.
  4. Regular open training periods.

Basically, this seems to manifest as a skill-focused meetup with a bit more structure than normal, and possibly more cash transfers / dues than normal. Do you have warnings about those features, suggestions of other features I should think about importing, or other comments?