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Comment author: ialdabaoth 11 June 2013 10:49:21AM 8 points [-]

Although the phrase "no strings attached" might not have quite the connotations you want.

I think a better phrasing would be "yes definitely means yes, within the boundaries explicitly negotiated".

I'm coming from the BDSM community, where explicit negotiations of consent and boundaries are kind of a Big Deal - maybe this is something that the mainstream sexual community could adopt with minor modification. (We've been beta testing it for them for at least three decades, after all)

Comment author: Multiheaded 11 June 2013 12:41:01PM 0 points [-]

Well, yes, that's what I should've said.

Comment author: wedrifid 11 June 2013 11:00:32AM *  0 points [-]

Although the phrase "no strings attached" might not have quite the connotations you want.

...making it hard to consent to bondage play for example?

Comment author: ialdabaoth 11 June 2013 11:02:58AM 6 points [-]

...making it hard to consent to bondage play for example?

What you did there.

But in all seriousness, yes. A more 'vanilla' example might be: "I enthusiastically consent to sex, but only if you wear a condom."