shminux comments on The Rational Investor, Part I - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 30 May 2013 03:24:25AM *  10 points [-]

TL:DR:

  1. Make a will
  2. Pay off your credit cards
  3. Get term life insurance if you have a family to support
  4. Fund your 401k to the maximum
  5. Fund your IRA to the maximum
  6. Buy a house if you want to live in a house and can afford it
  7. Put six months worth of expenses in a money-market account
  8. Take whatever money is left over and invest 70% in a stock index fund and 30% in a bond fund through any discount broker and never touch it until retirement
Comment author: Larks 30 May 2013 09:14:12PM 1 point [-]

Surely 7. should come before 6., and probably 4. and 5. as well.

Comment author: wubbles 30 May 2013 11:04:59PM *  0 points [-]

No, IRA's avoid a tax which the other investments don't, so money in an IRA is worth more than money outside. There is a cost, namely you have restricted access to it.

Comment author: 9eB1 31 May 2013 04:28:09AM 1 point [-]

It's worth pointing out that the money you put in there can still be held in a money-market account or similar, and that it acts as an emergency fund because you can withdraw it or take loans against it, subject to modest penalties.

Comment author: Alsadius 31 May 2013 08:02:57AM 0 points [-]

Re #8, I actually prefer the rule of thumb of having (your age)% in a bond fund, and the balance in stocks. It's a nice transition towards conservatism with age. Also, this is what you should do with the money inside a 401k as well.

Comment author: johnjohn 30 May 2013 09:39:05AM 0 points [-]

Putting six months worth of expenses in a money-market account seems like a needless 'mental accounting' bias. You can easily and quickly liquidate a portion of your " 70% in a stock index fund and 30% in a bond fund" if you need the cash in an emergency.

The 70% stocks 30% bonds seems somewhat arbitrary. I remember reading a paper once that advocated allocating 130% equities through the use of leverage. Of course, there is always the chance that the stockmarket underperforms over the long run. But, that's the risk that you are ostensibly being compensated for.

Comment author: shminux 30 May 2013 03:20:54PM 3 points [-]

These are general guidelines/priorities for safe and effective financial planning, not the "best possible" investment. They are apparently vastly better than what most americans have now: no will, cc debt, unaffordable mortgage, no (liquid) savings, inappropriately conservative, reckless or high-fee investment etc. You can certainly optimize and customize these guidelines, but you have to know what you are doing, which most of us don't. These guidelines are probably not quite suitable for places other than the US.