FeepingCreature comments on Rationality Quotes June 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: FeepingCreature 07 June 2013 11:31:23PM -1 points [-]

EDIT: Is there a problem with this post?

It's a bit rude to try to change others' definition of themselves unasked.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 08 June 2013 12:08:49AM *  1 point [-]

  1. Where does that intersect with "that which can be destroyed by the truth, should be"?

  2. "I'm dying to know whether we're stumbling on a difference in the way we think or the way we describe what we think, here." wasn't asking?

Comment author: FeepingCreature 08 June 2013 12:25:22AM -1 points [-]
  1. The problem is that "what is part of you" at the interconnectedness-level of the brain is largely a matter of preference, imo; that is, treating it as truth implies taking a more authoritive position than is reasonable. Same goes for 2) - there's a difference between telling somebody what you think and outright stating that their subjective self-image is factually incorrect.
Comment author: ialdabaoth 08 June 2013 12:31:42AM 1 point [-]

there's a difference between telling somebody what you think and outright stating that their subjective self-image is factually incorrect.

I appear to be confused.

Are you implying that subjective self-image is something that we should respect rather than analyze?

Comment author: FeepingCreature 08 June 2013 02:26:09AM *  2 points [-]

I think there's a difference between analysis and authoritive-sounding statements like "X is not actually a part of you, you are wrong about this", especially when it comes to personal attributes like selfness, especially in a thread demonstrating the folly of the typical-mind assumption.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 08 June 2013 02:31:24AM 1 point [-]

Interesting. It was not my intent to sound any more authoritative than typical. Are there particular signals that indicate abnormally authoritarian-sounding statements that I should watch out for? And are there protocols that I should be aware of here that determine who is allowed to sound more or less authoritarian than whom, and under what circumstances?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 June 2013 06:20:51PM 0 points [-]

FWIW, I understood you in the first place to be saying that this was a choice, and it was good to be aware of it as a choice, rather than making authoritarian statements about what choice to make.

Comment author: FeepingCreature 08 June 2013 03:13:48AM *  0 points [-]

I should have mentioned this earlier, but I did not downvote you so this is somewhat conjectured. In my opinion it's not a question of who but of topic - specifically, and this holds in a more general sense, you might want to be cautious when correcting people about beliefs that are part of their self-image. Couch it in terms like "I don't think", "I believe", "in my opinion", "personally speaking". That'll make it sound less like you think you know their minds better than they do.

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