Armok_GoB comments on Rationality Quotes June 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Armok_GoB 10 June 2013 09:08:21PM *  3 points [-]

I wasn't to add another data point, but I'm not sure the one I got can even be called that: I have no consistent memory on this subject. I am notoriously horrible at luminosity and introspection. When I do try to ask my brain, I receive a model/metaphor based of what I already know for neuroscience which may or may not contain data I couldn't access otherwise, and which is presented as a machine I can manipulate in the hopes of trying to manipulate the states of distant brains. The machine is clearly based on whatever concepts happen to be primed and the results would probably be completely different in every way if I tried this an hour later. Note that the usage of the word "I" here is inconsistent and ill-defined. This might be related to the fact this brain is self-diagnosed with posible ego-death (in the good way).

Edit: it is also noticed that like seemingly the case with most attempts to introspection, the act of observation strongly and aversely influence the functioning of the relevant circuity, in this case heavily altering my speech-patterns.

Comment author: hylleddin 13 June 2013 01:09:53AM 1 point [-]

Huh. They way you describe attempting introspection is exactly the way our brain behaves when we try to access any personal memories outside of working memory. This doesn't seem to be as effective as whatever the typical way is, as our personal memory's notoriously atrocious compared with others.

I don't seem to have any sort of ego death. Vigil might have something similar, though.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 13 June 2013 04:24:35PM 1 point [-]

Hmm, this seems related to another datapoint: reportedly, when I'm asked about my current mood and distracts, I answer "I can't remember".

A more tenuously related datapoint is that in fiction, I try to design BMIs around emulating having memorized GLUTs.

And some other thing come to think of it: I do have abnormal memory function in a bunch of various ways.

Basically; maybe a much larger chunk of my cognition passes through memory machinery for some reason?

Comment author: hylleddin 13 June 2013 06:01:54PM *  2 points [-]

A more tenuously related datapoint is that in fiction, I try to design BMIs around emulating having memorized >GLUTs.

What are GLUTs? I'm guessing you're not talking about Glucose Transporters.

Basically; maybe a much larger chunk of my cognition passes through memory machinery for some reason?

This seems like a plausible hypothesis. Alternatively, perhaps your working memory is less differentiated from your long-term memory.

Hmm, this seems related to another datapoint: reportedly, when I'm asked about my current mood and distracts, >I answer "I can't remember".

Hm. I have the same reaction if I'm asked what I'm thinking about, but I don't think it's because my thoughts are running through my long-term memory, so much as my train of thought usually gets flushed out of working memory when other people are talking.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 13 June 2013 06:42:50PM 2 points [-]

GLUT=Giant Look-Up Table. Basically, implementing multiplication by memorizing the multiplication tables up to 2 147 483 647.

Hmm, that's an interesting theory. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

And no I'm not talking about trying to remember what happened a few seconds ago. I mean direct sensory experiences; as in someone holds p 3 fingers in the darkness and asks "how many fingers am I holding up right now" and I answer "I can't remember" instead of "I can't see".

Comment author: TheOtherDave 13 June 2013 06:04:54PM 1 point [-]

What are GLUTs?

Giant Look-Up Table

Comment author: [deleted] 15 June 2013 07:28:17AM *  1 point [-]

A more tenuously related datapoint is that in fiction, I try to design BMIs around emulating having memorized GLUTs.

What are BMIs? I'm guessing you're not talking about body mass indexes.

:-)

Comment author: Armok_GoB 15 June 2013 03:58:05PM 0 points [-]

Brain machine Interface.