army1987 comments on Open Thread, June 2-15, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 09 June 2013 03:30:39PM *  1 point [-]

I also agree with the rest of the article. If you take a mentally unstable person and teach them PUA, you will get a mentally unstable person with some PUA skills. And therefore... I mean, if you take a mentally unstable person and teach them Java programming, you will get a mentally unstable person with some Java skills.

And if you take a mentally unstable person and teach them to use a weapon, you will get a mentally unstable person with some weapon-using skills. This may be more undesirable than a mentally unstable person with some Java skills.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 July 2013 08:02:16PM 0 points [-]

This isn't necessarily not less undesirable than a mentally unstable person with some Java skills. [reads again to make sure to have said the right thing without getting farblondjet by the quadruple negation]

On reading that again one month later... I indeed got that wrong. Edited to say it like a normal person.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 10 June 2013 12:32:09PM 0 points [-]

Uhm, you are right about this; my mistake. I focused too much on winning the debate. Apologies to everyone.

I still think that the benefits of publishing PUA advice are probably higher than the costs, but it would be difficult to defend this claim. (We would need to get data: how many clueless frustrated guys finally got their relationships right; how many naive girls were pumped and dumped by mentally unstable guys with pickup skills; the further impact of both on the society; etc. And even then we would have to make a value judgement about how much we care about a damsel in distress versus an expendable low-status male.)