It does make for higher quality discussions, especially when posters who command a larger audience are involved. Let's also assume that Jonah knows his shizzle, and that if he wrote something which seems stupid at first glance, he may have merely used an unfortunate phraseology. Where's the fun in shooting down the obvious targets, most readers can do so themselves. Rather skip to the subtle disagreements deep down, where true domina... where more refined and non-obvious counters may be revealed for the readers' benefit.