Simulate an argument between the individual at State 1 and State 7. If the individual at State 1 is ultimately convinced
Does this include "convinced by hypnosis", "convinced by brainwashing", "convinced by a clever manipulation" etc.? How will AI tell the difference?
(Maybe "convincing by hypnosis" is considered a standard and ethical method of communication with lesser beings in the society of Stage 7. If a person A is provably more intelligent and rational than a person B, and a person A acts according to generally accepted ethical values, why not make the communication most efficient? To do otherwise would be a waste of resources, which is a crime, if the wasted resources could be instead spent on saving people's lives.)
under the assumption that the individual at State 1 and the individual at State 7 both perfectly follow their own rules for proper argument
What if the rules are incompatible?
On point 1- OK, I screwed up slightly. Neither individual is allowed to argue with the other in a manner which the other one would see as brainwashing or unfair manipulation if in possesion of all the facts. The system rules out anything deceptive by correcting both parties on anything that is a question of fact. On point 2- Then they both argue using their own rules of argument. Presumably, the individual at State 1 is unconvinced.
My main objection to Coherent Extrapolated Volition (CEV) is the "Extrapolated" part. I don't see any reason to trust the extrapolated volition of humanity - but this isn't just for self centred reasons. I don't see any reason to trust my own extrapolated volition. I think it's perfectly possible that my extrapolated volition would follow some scenario like this:
There are many other ways this could go, maybe ending up as a negative utilitarian or completely indifferent, but that's enough to give the flavour. You might trust the person you want to be, to do the right things. But you can't trust them to want to be the right person - especially several levels in (compare with the argument in this post, and my very old chaining god idea). I'm not claiming that such a value drift is inevitable, just that it's possible - and so I'd want my initial values to dominate when there is a large conflict.
Nor do I give Armstrong 7's values any credit for having originated from mine. Under torture, I'm pretty sure I could be made to accept any system of values whatsoever; there are other ways that would provably alter my values, so I don't see any reason to privilege Armstrong 7's values in this way.
"But," says the objecting strawman, "this is completely different! Armstrong 7's values are the ones that you would reach by following the path you would want to follow anyway! That's where you would get to, if you started out wanting to be more altruistic, had control over you own motivational structure, and grew and learnt and knew more!"
"Thanks for pointing that out," I respond, "now that I know where that ends up, I must make sure to change the path I would want to follow! I'm not sure whether I shouldn't be more altruistic, or avoid touching my motivational structure, or not want to grow or learn or know more. Those all sound pretty good, but if they end up at Armstrong 7, something's going to have to give."