savageorange comments on Life hack request: I want to want to work. - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanielLC 11 June 2013 09:13:00PM *  2 points [-]

I could work as little as I need to pay for necessities and internet. Since "internet" seems to include everything I could ever possibly want, this would work great for me. However, I'm not the only one I care about. I need to be productive, because if I don't donate as much as I can to the best charity I can find, hundreds of innocents will die.

Also, this project is somewhat of a lower limit. Insomuch as there is anything productive I want to do, I want to do it. If I can't manage to do it, I can't be productive.

It seems like a bad sign that you didn't say "I want to work."

I didn't say that because, for the most part, I don't want to work. I would like to like to work, though. It would help me accomplish my goals in life, and, unlike if I did it with sheer willpower, it wouldn't come at the expense of my own happiness. Making myself like to work isn't trivial. It's not the sort of thing most people consider as something that you could do. However, I've seen guides on here for things like becoming bisexual and learning to enjoy polyamory, which seems much more impressive.

When I have trouble working, it usually takes the form "I have trouble starting to work without using something like Beeminder + Pomodoros, but once I start working I have no problem continuing."

If it's clear what I need to do, and I don't run into unforseen problems, then this is how it is. Often, I have no trouble working for an hour or so until I run into such a roadblock. Sometimes, I'm not sure what to do and I can't even start.

I'm not convinced tricking yourself into enjoying it more is the best solution.

Why not? If I enjoyed it more, I would have less trouble working on it. It's not like it's not something that can be enjoyed. People have fun working on productive things all the time. I've had fun working on productive things. It's just that it never seems to last very long.

Comment author: savageorange 12 June 2013 01:08:57PM *  1 point [-]

However, I've seen guides on here for things like becoming bisexual and learning to enjoy polyamory, which seems much more impressive.

It does? You mean http://lesswrong.com/lw/453/procedural_knowledge_gaps/3i49 and http://lesswrong.com/lw/79x/polyhacking/ ?

Personally, an asexuality hack would impress me the most. But I think that may be beyond possibility, barring drugs. :)

Sometimes, I'm not sure what to do and I can't even start.

The trick is just to start anyway, unless this is prohibitively expensive; things start falling into place after enough steady work on a single problem. I like this saying to remind me of this:

Pretending you know what you're doing is almost the same as knowing what you are doing, so just accept that you know what you're doing even if you don't and do it. -- "the cult of done manifesto" (here)

It's like 'the fact that you haven't yet started' is a looming tyrant that you have to overthrow, and once you have, you can only then begin genuinely THINKING. It's like that often for me. But I have found that with practice this effect is reduced.

Comment author: SuspiciousTitForTat 14 June 2013 04:49:00AM 3 points [-]

I suspect, about the bissexuality hack, that just going there and kissing a non bearded guy works faster, and only if that doesn't do the trick one should start using slowmotion behaviorism.

Comment author: savageorange 15 June 2013 02:01:59AM *  0 points [-]

Totally, Now if only there were an analogous method to go from bi to asexual.

(BTW an inbetween way re: sexuality might be to imagine yourself in that situation, in detail -- make a detailed fantasy going into everything that could happen, deliberately forcing yourself to let the whole thing pan out before you let yourself switch to another train of thought. I've used this to mitigate excessive aversion and excessive attraction in the past.)

Comment author: drethelin 12 June 2013 06:13:04PM 1 point [-]

The most wellknown and effective asexuality hack is to hack your balls off.