Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Do Earths with slower economic growth have a better chance at FAI? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 June 2013 11:08:26PM 1 point [-]

Moore's Law is one of the few things that won't be affected.

FAI seems to me to be mostly about serial depth of research. UFAI seems to be mostly about cumulative parallel volume of research. Things that affect this are effectual even if Moore's Law is constant.

I'm also not fully convinced that RGDP growth and the amount of hack-AI research are monotonically connected.

We could check how economic status affects science funding.

Regardless of what happens to the economy, the first- and second-wave Internet generations will take power on a fixed schedule. That's way more kaboomy than economic growth is.

? What does your model claim happens here?

Comment author: jimrandomh 13 June 2013 04:05:47PM 5 points [-]

? What does your model claim happens here?

Right now the institutional leadership in the US is (a) composed almost entirely of baby boomers, a relatively narrow age band, and (b) significantly worse than average (as compared to comparable institutions and leaders in other countries). When they start retiring, they won't be replaced with people who are only slightly younger, but by people who're much younger and spread across a larger range of ages, causing organizational competence to regress to the mean, in many types of institutions simultaneously.

I also believe - and this is much lower confidence - that this is the reason for the Great Stagnation; institutional corruption is suppressing and misrouting most research, and a leadership turnover may reverse this process, potentially producing an order of magnitude increase in useful research done.

Comment author: Vaniver 13 June 2013 02:40:01AM *  4 points [-]

FAI seems to me to be mostly about serial depth of research. UFAI seems to be mostly about cumulative parallel volume of research. Things that affect this are effectual even if Moore's Law is constant.

I wonder how much of this estimate is your distance to the topic; it seems like there could be a bias to think that one's work is more serial than it actually is, and other's work more parallelizable.

(Apply reversal test: what would I expect to see if the reverse were true? Well, a thought experiment: would you prefer two of you working for six months (either on the same project together, or different projects) and then nothing for six months, or one of you working for a year? The first makes more sense in parallel fields, the second more sense in serial fields. If you imagined that instead of yourself, it was someone in another field, what would you think would be better for them? What's different?)