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If I'm going to wear clothing with words, is there any marginal harm to having it be rationalist themed? I frequently find myself in situations where it's the norm, regardless of whether it's a good idea instrumentally. My system one says conforming there is good, but it's possible I'm wrong there.
The question is, can you make people think: "I would like to be as awesome as that person. I see he is wearing a rationality shirt. I should check that out." ?
Here are two alternatives:
Oh no. We'd better stop writing in words. They might associate us with literate religious people.
Seriously though, do you live in a place where you see a lot of people wearing religious or gun-related T-shirts? I have only ever seen one person wear a T-shirt explicitly about Jesus.
I don't understand. It seems to me that it would be very easy to make rationality seem like a (religious) cult. Wearing dorky clothes, knocking on people's doors to spread the joy, and handing out pamphlets praising our savior Rationality. We could even send volunteers to beg for money at airports: "Hello sir, would you like to help prevent the coming end of the world?"
I just don't associate T-shirts with religion as strongly as you do, I think.
This might be because I see a lot of people wearing nerdy T-shirts, or T-shirts associated with various interests/groups, like DnD, heir fraternities, or professional groups (chemical engineering society, etc.). From that perspective, having a rationality T-shirt just falls into one of those categories, and is therefore OK. It's just another medium that some people with certain interests use to signal to each other.
Like I said: do you see it differently? Are most of the T-shirts with slogans you see people wearing religiously-related?
I guess there are huge geographical (and age-cohort) variations in this kind of stuff.
Religion was an example, coming from the general category of social subgroups that carry a large impact on identity and create a sense of exclusivity, which also includes every group you described.
I would rather not see rationality marginalized into such categories, in anyone's mind.
So, you think it is bad for rationality to be a) strongly associated with a person's identity, and/or b) create a sense of exclusivity, or belonging to a group. Is that right?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but... why do you think this is a bad thing?
Uhh... my question was much closer to "What would make me think 'Hey, that's a cool rationality shirt!'?".