shminux comments on On manipulating others - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: Jonii 16 June 2013 05:44PM

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Comment author: shminux 16 June 2013 06:14:07PM 0 points [-]

A couple of concrete examples on either side of the acceptability boundary would be useful: one where "manipulation" is "Treating other people as pawns in your plan", and another where "manipulation" (now termed as "influence" to avoid negative connotations) is perfectly "fair".

Comment author: Jonii 16 June 2013 06:31:16PM 0 points [-]

True. However, it's difficult to construct culturally neutral examples that are not obvious. The ones that pop to my mind are the kind of "it's wrong to be nice to an old, really simple-minded lady because that way you can make her rewrite her will to your benefit", or "It's allright to try to make your roommate do the dishes as many times as you possibly can, as long as you're both on equal footing on this "competition" of "who can do the least dishes"".

I'm not sure how helpful that kind of examples are.