DavidAgain comments on On manipulating others - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mwengler 20 June 2013 01:25:36AM 0 points [-]

I am currently in the process of figuring out how to be somebody's friend that I am attracted to, and she knows it. She is in the process of helping me to get it right, because she wishes me to be attracted to her, she wishes to be attracted to me, and she wishes to have this all in the context of friendship.

You can be sure we are studying each other in detail and trying to optimize. We are both doing it and we both know we are doing it.

I don't think contempt or deception are part of the equation, at least no at the core.

Comment author: DavidAgain 20 June 2013 10:22:22AM 2 points [-]

If it's mutually decided then it's clearly not deception, and whatever floats your boat, tbh.

Your other responses referring to evolutionary psychology, the chance of altruistic friendship etc. etc.: there is a difference between the evolutionary fact that your inclination to be friends with someone will be based on ultimately selfish goals, and being selfish yourself. The psychological make-up we have is a brute fact of existence and we need to take it into account. But selfish genes do not mean that the concept of human unselfishness is a busted flush.