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To whoever fixed it so that we can see the parents of comments when looking at a user's comments, major props to you for being awesome.
Your props go to Lucas Sloan. Hail Lucas!
I'm a little torn on that one-- on one hand it adds convenience most of the time, but it makes it less convenient to check on recent karma. The latter is something I feel like doing now and then, but it's possible I'm saner if it isn't convenient.
It was never an ideal way to check on recent karma, though it was better than nothing. I'd quite like something similar to Stack Overflow's Reputation view.
Yeah, this has been requested before.
I am particularly aware of it right now because I've been watching my 30-days karma drop slowly and steadily for the last couple of days, but I have no idea what in particular people want less of.
That said, I suspect that's just because I'm getting individual downvotes across a wide set of comments in the 0+/-2 range, and changing the way that information is displayed won't really help me answer that question any better than the current system does.
30-day karma falling is probably old posts aging out. Unless your total karma is also falling?
Not sure about my total. I notice the 30-day shifts when I reload, but not the total changes (I assume that's because the relative changes are larger, but it might be because it's lower, or lighter-colored, or for some other reason; I'm not sure.)
My reply to wedrifid is relevant here as well.
Less not doing whatever you did exactly 30 days ago! (You could look this up if interested. If there in fact aren't any comments falling off the 30 day list then you may have cause for concern. Or, well, cause for mild interest anyway.)
I believe the timing-based updates only happen once a day, so when I see drops over the course of a day I assume the cause is downvotes, rather than change of reading frame. Admittedly, I'm not sure why I believe that, now that I think of it.
Also, it's really more "less not doing whatever I did over a 30-day period ending yesterday", not "less not doing whatever I did exactly 30 days ago," right? Which is harder to look up.
Though you're right, regardless, that if I were sufficiently interested I could extract this information. And yeah, "concern" is pushing it, but I do try to use downvotes (as distinct from fewer-upvotes-than-I-received-earlier) as information about what I'm doing that the community wants less of. "Mild interest" is about right.
No. The rest of the period hasn't changed. Any period related changes to the 30 day karma are the result of the stuff 30 days ago falling out of scope. The remainder influences the absolute level of 30dk but not the fluctuations.
(nods) You're right, of course. I sit corrected.
have you been making less comments? My 30 day karma depends far more on the amount of commenting I've been doing than on anything else.
I dislike the change, as it's harder to get an impression about a new user based on their user page now, the comments by other users are getting in the way, and it's not possible to tune them out. Also, the change has broken user RSS feeds.
Would it be a good solution to change the color of the parent comments to gray, so they would be easier to ignore?
I second Nancy and Vladimir in disliking it.
Maybe it could be made a user preference, the way it is for the Recent Comments page.
I would definitely like to see it as a user preference.
Also, how do people feel about the relatively subtle color change for new comments which has replaced the bright green edge?
I liked the green edge more.
I'm finding the new version usable-- the green edge might allow for faster scanning, but the new version isn't bad with a little practice.
On the other hand, if there are multiple new comments in a thread, I find that I miss the alternating white/pale blue way of distinguishing comments. It would be nice to have two pastels instead of one.
The visual difference between a new comment and an old comment should be greater than the difference between two old comments.
How about using two pastel colors for the old comments... and using the white background for the new comments?
It would also be nice to have e.g. a small green "NEW" text in the corner of new comments, so I can quickly find a few new comments in a long discussion by using the "Find Next" functionality of my browser. (Because I don't have a functionality to search a comment based on its background color.)
If you're going to do this at all, it should be a more-likely-unique string (eg "!new!" rather than "NEW").
I much prefer the new version. It's far easier to spot new comments.