VAuroch comments on Universal Fire - Less Wrong

63 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 April 2007 09:15PM

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Comment author: michael_vassar 28 April 2007 05:42:13AM 6 points [-]

Funny, I always read "A Fire Upon The Deep" as a commentary upon this very point. It seemed to me that Vinge was rubbing people's faces in the fact that our intuitions about technology, where each discovery has an associated "importance" lisp token, doesn't correspond to the way the world works. The Zones correspond to something that exists in the minds of people thinking about the future, but doesn't correspond to anything that could possibly turn out to exist in a consilient monistic world (as opposed to the Platonistic internal world of stories and computer games). The story seemed to me to be an expose of the lack of depth implicit it non-singularitarian world models given the necessity of mind in monistic worlds emerging from a manipulable substrate.

OTOH, no-one else seems to read it that way, and "A Deepness In The Sky" was deeply disappointing by dropping the theme, so I guess that my read wasn't intended after all.

Comment author: VAuroch 13 November 2013 08:39:04AM 0 points [-]

That theme came back in Children of the Sky, which was published after this post. It partially explains the Zone of Thought, demonstrating that it is not, in fact, a consilient monistic world.

Your read was probably one of several things which was intended. Vinge chose to focus on a different thing.