Rune comments on Some reservations about Singer's child-in-the-pond argument - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Rune 20 June 2013 12:45:34AM *  3 points [-]

Your last example is actually weaker than it could be. Even though it's completely equivalent, a better way to phrase this is the following:

The train is currently rushing to kill the child, and you're not part of this situation. You, sitting in your car far away, see this happening. You now have the choice to drive up to the tracks and leave your car on the tracks. This will save the child but destroy your car.

Now it's clear that you weren't part of the situation to begin with; you're just a distant observer who may choose to intervene.

Comment author: JonahSinick 20 June 2013 12:50:41AM 0 points [-]

The train is currently rushing to kill the child, and you're not part of this situation. You, sitting in your car far away, see this happening. You now have the choice to drive up to the tracks and leave your car on the tracks. This will save the child but destroy your car.

I don't follow why leaving your car on the tracks prevents the child from being killed.

Comment author: Ben_Welchner 20 June 2013 01:26:29AM *  26 points [-]

The same reason fat people can derail trolleys and businesspeople have lifeguard abilities, I'd imagine.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 20 June 2013 09:36:38PM *  5 points [-]

New problem: should you spring for the train-derailing-self-destruct-with-an-ejection-seat option on your new car?

Comment author: B_For_Bandana 28 June 2013 02:15:02AM 0 points [-]

Well, if it costs anything like $2300, then...

Comment author: wedrifid 21 June 2013 12:16:19AM 0 points [-]

New problem: should you spring for the train-derailing-self-destruct-with-an-ejection-seat option on your new car?

Just always make sure you have a fat man as a passenger.