shminux comments on For FAI: Is "Molecular Nanotechnology" putting our best foot forward? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: nigerweiss 26 June 2013 08:10:34AM 0 points [-]

That's... not a strong criticism. There are compelling reasons not to believe that God is going to be a major force in steering the direction the future takes. The exact opposite is true for MNT - I'd bet at better-than-even odds that MNT will be a major factor in how things play out basically no matter what happens.

All we're doing is providing people with a plausible scenario that contradicts flawed intuitions that they might have, in an effort to get them to revisit those intuitions and reconsider them. There's nothing wrong with that. Would we need to do it if people were rational agents? No - but, as you may be aware, we definitely don't live in that universe.

Comment author: shminux 26 June 2013 03:50:32PM -1 points [-]

There is no need to use known bad arguments when there are so many good ones.

Comment author: nigerweiss 28 June 2013 01:04:21AM 0 points [-]

Of course there is. For starters, most of the good arguments are much more difficult to concisely explain, or invite more arguments from flawed intuitions. Remember, we're not trying to feel smug in our rational superiority here; we're trying to save the world.

Comment author: shminux 28 June 2013 01:53:11AM -1 points [-]

if your bad argument gets refuted, you lose whatever credibility you may have had.

Comment author: nigerweiss 29 June 2013 09:46:55AM 0 points [-]

It isn't the sort of bad argument that gets refuted. The best someone can do is point out that there's no guarantee that MNT is possible. In which case, the response is 'Are you prepared to bet the human species on that? Besides, it doesn't actually matter, because [insert more sophisticated argument about optimization power here].' It doesn't hurt you, and with the overwhelming majority of semi-literate audiences, it helps.