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20 Post author: moridinamael 27 June 2013 03:16AM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 27 June 2013 11:20:30PM *  3 points [-]

"Deserve" is harmful because we would often rather destroy utility than allow an undeserved outcome distribution. For instance, most people would probably rather punish a criminal than reform him. I nominate "justice" as the more basic bad concept. It's a good concept for sloppy thinkers who are incapable of keeping in mind all the harm done later by injustices now, a shortcut that lets them choose actions that probably increase utility in the long run. But it is a bad concept for people who can think more rigorously.

A lot of these "bad concepts" will probably be things that are useful given limited rationality.

“Are the gods not just?"

"Oh no, child. What would become us us if they were?”

― C.S. Lewis, Till We Have Faces

Comment author: buybuydandavis 28 June 2013 01:55:57AM 0 points [-]

I nominate "justice" as the more basic bad concept. It's a good concept for sloppy thinkers who are incapable of keeping in mind all the harm done later by injustices now,

Actually, I think that's some of what they are keeping in mind and find motivating.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 29 June 2013 03:46:13PM -1 points [-]

If they were able to keep it in mind separately, they could include that in their calculations, instead of using justice as a kind of sufficient statistic to summarize it.