Kaj_Sotala comments on Bad Concepts Repository - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 29 June 2013 05:36:27AM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Epiphany 01 July 2013 12:13:57AM *  0 points [-]

Good link. I like that Grognor mentions that obviousness is just a matter of perception and people's ideas about what's obvious will vary, so we shouldn't assume other people know "obvious" things. However, I think that it's really important for us to be aware that if you think something is obvious, you stop questioning, and you're then left with what is essentially a first impression - but I don't see Grognor mention that semantic stop sign like effect in the post, nor do I see anything about people using obviousness as a way to falsely support points.

Do you think Grognor would be interested in updating the article to include additional negative effects of obviousness? Then again putting too many points into an article makes articles confusing and less fun to read. Maybe I should write one. Do you know if anyone has written an article yet on obviousness as a meta semantic stop sign, or obviousness as a false supportive argument? If not, I'll do it.

Comment author: gwern 01 July 2013 12:20:39AM 1 point [-]

Do you think Grognor would be interested in updating the article to include additional negative effects of obviousness?

No; he's quit LW.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 01 July 2013 01:04:47PM 0 points [-]

Do you know if anyone has written an article yet on obviousness as a meta semantic stop sign, or obviousness as a false supportive argument? If not, I'll do it.

Not that I could recall.

Comment author: Epiphany 01 July 2013 05:02:22PM *  -1 points [-]

Ok, I'll post about this in the open thread to gauge interest / see if anyone else knows of a pre-existing LW post on these specific obviousness problems.